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	These are possible allegations, claims, and theories related to the various cases of Laura M. Owens. This is a living document, so if proof is discovered one way or another on the theories below, this page will be updated.		These are possible allegations, claims, and theories related to the various cases of Laura M. Owens. This is a living document, so if proof is discovered one way or another on the theories below, this page will be updated.

	== Chase Jay Jones ==		== "Chase Jay Jones" ==
	In October of 2023, a 2nd year journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":3" /><ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>		In October of 2023, a 2nd year journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":3" /><ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>

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	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, it was sent it to a PO Box in Washington state that Chase Jay Jones provided. Jones immediately sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, it was sent it to a PO Box in Washington state that Chase Jay Jones provided. Jones immediately sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />

			On May 31, 2024, Dave Neal posts a video debunking the Chase Jay Jones persona. A member of the Justice for Clayton community tried to log-in to Chase Jay Jones's YouTube account, pressed "forgot email", and put in Laura's phone number to reset the password. Laura's phone number worked, meaning that was the phone number used to create the Chase Jay Jones's YouTube account.<ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPCIZhg8FJk</ref>

	== 2019-2020 Victim ==		== 2019-2020 Victim ==

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	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, it was sent it to a PO Box in Washington state that Chase Jay Jones provided. Jones immediately sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, it was sent it to a PO Box in Washington state that Chase Jay Jones provided. Jones immediately sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />

			== 2019-2020 Victim ==
			There are rumors that there is an ex-boyfriend/victim of Laura's from the 2019-2020 time period, but he has chosen to not be named publicly. He's also not included in any court documents, besides Laura vaguely mentioning his name in one email, so we have chosen to not include him as part of the confirmed victims. We will update the page if anything changes.

	== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==		== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==
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	Echard is still paying for legal representation; he is actively several thousand dollars in debt over this. If you’d like to donate, you can do so [https://www.gofundme.com/f/clayton-echard-legal-fund here.]		Echard is still paying for legal representation; he is actively several thousand dollars in debt over this. If you’d like to donate, you can do so [https://www.gofundme.com/f/clayton-echard-legal-fund here.]

			== Ex-Boyfriend "Tag" ==
			A supposed ex-boyfriend of Laura's named Tag reached out to both Megan Fox and Lauren Neidigh, claiming that he dated Laura from mid-2015 to 2016. He states that she used similar tactics on him, attempts to debunk the Chase Jay Jones person, speaks very poorly of Dave Neal, etc. After conversing with the Tag person, both Megan and Lauren have concluded that this person is actually Laura Michelle Owens. <ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsdb-1a8gh8</ref><ref>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAmFJZQFbs0</ref>

	== Ronn Owens' Facebook Page ==		== Ronn Owens' Facebook Page ==
	There are theories that [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]', Laura M. Owens' father and a former well-known radio DJ, public Facebook page is run by his wife and daughter. To date, he has shared all of Laura Owens' Medium blog posts on [https://www.facebook.com/ronnowens/ his public Facebook page]. However, any comments that mention the case and are not supportive, are immediately deleted and those users are then banned from the page. Dave Neal covers the deletion of comments on [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]' Facebook page in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mBWYMTIQg&ab_channel=DaveNeal youtube video.] There are speculations that Laura M. Owens and her mother are making sure that Ronn's fans never find out all the details in this case.		There are theories that [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]', Laura M. Owens' father and a former well-known radio DJ, public Facebook page is run by his wife and daughter. To date, he has shared all of Laura Owens' Medium blog posts on [https://www.facebook.com/ronnowens/ his public Facebook page]. However, any comments that mention the case and are not supportive, are immediately deleted and those users are then banned from the page. Dave Neal covers the deletion of comments on [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]' Facebook page in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mBWYMTIQg&ab_channel=DaveNeal youtube video.] There are speculations that Laura M. Owens and her mother are making sure that Ronn's fans never find out all the details in this case.

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	Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back.<ref name=":0" />		Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back.<ref name=":0" />

	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, it was sent it to a PO Box in Washington state that Chase Jay Jones provided. Jones immediately sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />

	== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==		== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==

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	TheBachelorBoy (tied to the Chase Jay Jones Medium post) domain name with GoDaddy was set up through a proxy (to hide identity) registered in Arizona. The same day of domain creation, Chase Jay Jones created the medium account, which is also the same day they emailed the journalists with their Medium blog post.<ref name=":2" /> Also, Metadata pulled from a Laura Owens video/email attachments show the same device type as the video pulled from the Chase Jay Jones email, which was not the current, updated Mac software.<ref name=":2" />		TheBachelorBoy (tied to the Chase Jay Jones Medium post) domain name with GoDaddy was set up through a proxy (to hide identity) registered in Arizona. The same day of domain creation, Chase Jay Jones created the medium account, which is also the same day they emailed the journalists with their Medium blog post.<ref name=":2" /> Also, Metadata pulled from a Laura Owens video/email attachments show the same device type as the video pulled from the Chase Jay Jones email, which was not the current, updated Mac software.<ref name=":2" />

	Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back~~. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in~~.<ref name=":1" />		Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back.<ref name=":0" />

	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />

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	== Chase Jay Jones ==		== Chase Jay Jones ==
	In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":3" /><ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>		In October of 2023, a 2nd year journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":3" /><ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>

	After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, which Owens vehemently denies, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].		After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, which Owens vehemently denies, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].

			TheBachelorBoy (tied to the Chase Jay Jones Medium post) domain name with GoDaddy was set up through a proxy (to hide identity) registered in Arizona. The same day of domain creation, Chase Jay Jones created the medium account, which is also the same day they emailed the journalists with their Medium blog post.<ref name=":2" /> Also, Metadata pulled from a Laura Owens video/email attachments show the same device type as the video pulled from the Chase Jay Jones email, which was not the current, updated Mac software.<ref name=":2" />

	Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />		Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />

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	== Chase Jay Jones ==		== Chase Jay Jones ==
	In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>		In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":3" /><ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>

	After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, which Owens vehemently denies, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].		After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, which Owens vehemently denies, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].
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	Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />		Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />

	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref name=":3">[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />

	== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==		== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==

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			These are possible allegations, claims, and theories related to the various cases of Laura M. Owens. This is a living document, so if proof is discovered one way or another on the theories below, this page will be updated.

	=== Chase Jay Jones ===		=== Chase Jay Jones ===
	In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>		In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>

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Greg Gillespie

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	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.

	=== Greg Gillespie ===		=== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ===
	Greg Gillespie believes that Laura M. Owens was not actually pregnant with his twins, nor was she ever, despite her claims.		Greg Gillespie believes that Laura M. Owens was not actually pregnant with his twins, nor was she ever, despite her claims.

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	Laura M. Owens also claims, in an August 2022 message directly to the judge, that Gillespie and his attorney, Gregg Woodnick, were behind an alleged physical attack on her that allegedly happened on March 4, 2022. There are no public documents to support this claim and she did not pursue this any further.		Laura M. Owens also claims, in an August 2022 message directly to the judge, that Gillespie and his attorney, Gregg Woodnick, were behind an alleged physical attack on her that allegedly happened on March 4, 2022. There are no public documents to support this claim and she did not pursue this any further.

	=== Clayton Echard ===		=== [[Clayton Echard]] ===
	Clayton Echard, like Greg Gillespie, believes that Laura M. Owens was never pregnant with his twins, despite her claims.		Clayton Echard, like Greg Gillespie, believes that Laura M. Owens was never pregnant with his twins, despite her claims.

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	=== Chase Jay Jones ===		=== Chase Jay Jones ===
	~~There is~~ a ~~belief that Laura M. Owens impersonated a Howard University~~ journalism student~~, by the name of~~ Chase Jay Jones~~, in~~ an attempt to get Echard canceled for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. ~~Archived Medium article~~ can ~~be [~~[:~~File:CJJ Medium Article 2023~~.10.~~5.pdf\|viewed~~ here]~~] as the article has been removed~~. ~~After this theory began to circulate, Jones' identity was scrubbed from the internet. The IP address~~ that ~~Chase Jay Jones used was traced back~~ to the ~~region Owens lives in~~. [https://~~podcasts~~.~~apple~~.com/~~au/podcast/sunlight~~-~~is-the-greatest-disinfectant-with-dave-neal~~/~~id1612102814?i=1000636669317 Source: All Ears Podcast episode with Dave Neal]~~		In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>

	~~In a later update on~~ Jones, Dave Neal ~~states,~~ "Chase Jay Jones ~~100% joined my Patreon October 19th~~. ~~I have this proof~~ that ~~they were lurking in there for several weeks. We tried~~ to ~~get~~ their ~~billing info from Patreon, who proved~~ to ~~be UTTERLY USELESS~~. ~~Even with a court ordered subpoena~~, ~~they weren’t able~~ to ~~find CJJ in~~ their ~~database~~. ~~This person has vanished from~~ the ~~world~~. ~~They either had their data scrubbed~~, ~~or they’re hiding under a different username. All efforts are being taken~~ to ~~find their identity~~. ~~More on that later~~."		After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].

			Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />

	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.

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	These are possible allegations, claims, and theories related to the various cases of Laura M. Owens. This is a living document, so if proof is discovered one way or another on the theories below, this page will be updated.		These are possible allegations, claims, and theories related to the various cases of Laura M. Owens. This is a living document, so if proof is discovered one way or another on the theories below, this page will be updated.

	=== Chase Jay Jones ===		== Chase Jay Jones ==
	In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>		In October of 2023, a journalism student named Chase Jay Jones from Howard University (a well-known HBCU) emailed a list of 100+ journalists with a link to a blog post on Medium that they wrote entitled 'Former Bachelor Clayton Echard has an N'-Word Problem'.<ref name=":0">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U6GR6LPZgQE&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=12</ref> The post is a blatant attempt to get Clayton Echard "canceled" by the public for having participated in a TikTok dance challenge featuring a song with the "n-word" in it. Note: He did not sing along with the lyrics, he merely danced with some animated penguins as the song played in the background. You can view the video they are referring to [https://www.youtube.com/@ChaseJones-wt6hm here]. Also worth noting that not one journalist that they reached out to ran with the story. <ref name=":1">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sk7qdDctCZ8&list=PLocc5Mp7hk0mWMLzXpZT6kTG-E_ej33SF&index=25</ref>

	After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].		After the theory began to circulate that Laura M. Owens could possibly be behind this account, which Owens vehemently denies, Chase Jay Jones' entire identity was scrubbed from the internet (sans the YouTube channel linked above). The post was taken down and their Patreon membership to Dave Neal's channel (that they joined on October 19th) was cancelled.<ref name=":0" /> Since the Medium blog post by Chase Jay Jones was taken down, you can view the archived copy [[:File:CJJ Medium Article 2023.10.5.pdf\|here]].

	Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />		Dave Neal responded to the initial email that Chase Jay Jones sent, asking to verify their identity and to get some more information before he reported on the story. <ref name=":0" /> They corresponded back and forth, but when Neal asked to FaceTime to verify their identity, Jones stopped responding. Neal reached out to Howard University to verify that they had a journalism student enrolled by the name of Chase Jay Jones, but he never heard back. Also, the IP address that Chase Jay Jones used was traced back to the region Laura M. Owens currently lives in.<ref name=":1" />

	When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.		When Neal's lawyer attempted to subpoena Jones' Patreon and Google records, Jones sent two motions to quash the subpoena.<ref>[[:File:2023.12.19 Chase Jones motion to quash subpoenas.pdf]]</ref> It's to be noted as well that to e-file in the county, you do not need proof of identification. Owens said in an email to Neal's attorney that she "did not fight the subpoenas from Patreon and Google", even though the only records that were subpoenaed were to Chase Jay Jones.<ref name=":2">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYBiCGQXTI4&t=1373s</ref> Neal's lawyer contacted Jones' several times to get on a video call to verify their identity, and they would drop the whole thing. Jones never responded.<ref name=":2" />

	=== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ===		== [[Greg Gillespie: June 2021 - October 2023: Scottsdale, Arizona\|Greg Gillespie]] ==
	Greg Gillespie believes that Laura M. Owens was not actually pregnant with his twins, nor was she ever, despite her claims.		Greg Gillespie believes that Laura M. Owens was not actually pregnant with his twins, nor was she ever, despite her claims.

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	Laura M. Owens also claims, in an August 2022 message directly to the judge, that Gillespie and his attorney, Gregg Woodnick, were behind an alleged physical attack on her that allegedly happened on March 4, 2022. There are no public documents to support this claim and she did not pursue this any further.		Laura M. Owens also claims, in an August 2022 message directly to the judge, that Gillespie and his attorney, Gregg Woodnick, were behind an alleged physical attack on her that allegedly happened on March 4, 2022. There are no public documents to support this claim and she did not pursue this any further.

	=== [[Clayton Echard]] ===		== [[Clayton Echard]] ==
	Clayton Echard, like Greg Gillespie, believes that Laura M. Owens was never pregnant with his twins, despite her claims.		Clayton Echard, like Greg Gillespie, believes that Laura M. Owens was never pregnant with his twins, or pregnant at all, despite her claims.

	Echard is still paying for legal representation; he is actively several thousand dollars in debt over this. If you’d like to donate, you can do so [https://www.gofundme.com/f/clayton-echard-legal-fund here.]		Echard is still paying for legal representation; he is actively several thousand dollars in debt over this. If you’d like to donate, you can do so [https://www.gofundme.com/f/clayton-echard-legal-fund here.]

	=== Ronn Owens' Facebook Page ===		== Ronn Owens' Facebook Page ==
	There are theories that [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]', Laura M. Owens' father and a former well-known radio DJ, public Facebook page is run by his wife and daughter. To date, he has shared all of Laura Owens' Medium blog posts on [https://www.facebook.com/ronnowens/ his public Facebook page]. However, any comments that mention the case and are not supportive, are immediately deleted and those users are then banned from the page. Dave Neal covers the deletion of comments on [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]' Facebook page in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mBWYMTIQg&ab_channel=DaveNeal youtube video.] There are speculations that Laura M. Owens and her mother are making sure that Ronn's fans never find out all the details in this case.		There are theories that [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]', Laura M. Owens' father and a former well-known radio DJ, public Facebook page is run by his wife and daughter. To date, he has shared all of Laura Owens' Medium blog posts on [https://www.facebook.com/ronnowens/ his public Facebook page]. However, any comments that mention the case and are not supportive, are immediately deleted and those users are then banned from the page. Dave Neal covers the deletion of comments on [[wikipedia:Ronn_Owens\|Ronn Owens]]' Facebook page in this [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m1mBWYMTIQg&ab_channel=DaveNeal youtube video.] There are speculations that Laura M. Owens and her mother are making sure that Ronn's fans never find out all the details in this case.